My default in CS is srgb the same as in camera, I only ever check the profile when I have downloaded someone else's photo's. I have found that if I don't check any editing I do seems to get stripped off when its converted to srgb for the web, so I check first then edit.

I don't know what CS does to the file but in the directory where I downloaded it it was 200k when I came to CS save it was showing over 400k so had to reduce, That I can't fathom.

Same here Christine, I've just spent 1/2 hour in PS CS2 trying to work out Stephens statement. As you say selecting srgb made no difference for me either.

What I did notice is that the red on the left is much more vibrant in Stephens variation, something I cannot match exactly.

I do think though that we are all in agreement that the original looks a little flat.

Will upload my variation shortly.

Harry

I think there's a lot of people on here with not a lot of work to do :)

Wolfie he may have gone over it with the burn tool as I did.

Thanks for that Christine.

I notice that there are only very slight differences in all the varations, which suggests Don got it all spot on.

On my attempt I increased the gamma slightly, but then added the "High Pass" filter @ 12 pixels, then used the "Soft light" blend and adjusted the opacity to 70%.

On saving, to produce a similar file size as Don, I had to save at quality 3.

Harry

Has anyone got a bad image that we can work on and post the results with how we did it. I havn't got one trashed them all.

Never take any :) but there may be about 40GBs worth on my dedicated photo hard drive

Harry

As I said in my original comment, I did absolutely nothing to Dons original except alter the colour space from AdobeRGB to sRGB before Saving for Web.

This is now getting confusing.

In that case in must be down to monitor calibration.

I use Quick Gamma http://www.normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html

and Monitor Calibration Wizard

http://www.hex2bit.com/products/product_mcw.asp

I use a Colorvision Spyder2Pro on my monitor so am confident I am seeing things correctly.

Frankly its my opinion that the tweaks mentioned above are hardly necessary on Dons picture, apart from maybe a slight increase in contrast using Curves. To change the Gamma etc is not needed unless you want to create a more specific effect.