Christine,

Pic 1 is not really a fair test as lots of reflective surfaces. Pic 2 however is better. Looking at the shadows on the wall it appears that all the light is from the DF200. First thing to try is, with the same subject, remove diffuser from the pop up. The effect will show in the shadows. A bit of matt white emulsion paint on the large diffuser may still be needed but give this a go first.

Don

Christine,

I have just been looking a pic 2 again. Given the closeness of some of those stems to the wall the light is not as hard as it may first appear. I am now banking on the undiffused pop up lessening their effect.

Don

I have now tried three more shots.

1. Diffuser as is, with no diffusion on the pop up.
2. Piece of white paper over diffuser to soften glare from plastic, popup covered.
3. Piece of paper on diffuser, pop-up uncovered.

Christine,

No 3 has best exposure but the pop up in 1 & 3 is slightly more poweful hence the stonger shadow. Need to think how to trim it a bit. Right hand side of no 3 is nice but shadow from pop up on the left is quite hard.

I need to have a bit of a think as its getting close. Can you do one with the vase about a foot off the wall but expose as in no 3. It would be interesting to see what happens to the shadows on the left side particularly.

I will download these and have a proper look.

Don

These two are as follows.

Both photo's with vase 18" from wall
1. Paper to soften on bounce flash and nothing on popup.
2. Paper to soften on bounce flash and white plastic cap over pop up.

Don I am hoping to have the live model this weekend some alterations to do on dress. So will be able to do a little practicing I may get her to go on balcany if its dry then I should have daylight as well.

Christine,

Just to help us think about this I have marked up image 3 from your last post and repost your first as a reference point.

Don

The reception for the wedding is be held here in a marque so if all goes well I will be editing as the day goes along, I will be able to see straight away what photo's are going to be fine and any that may need to doing again. I know I will be printing some off of the group shots to hand out on the day. I may be the mother of the bride but I know where I will be most of the time.

Its still very harsh I will go and paint the diffuser with some matt paint. I think it looks better with the diffuser over popup. I have kept the fstop the same for all. The head of the flash can be set on widangle or zoom at the moment its in the middle for standard 50m lens there is wide angle and zoom settings. Once I have sorted out the harshness I will play with those setting.

Christine,

Exposure on no1 looks better. Notice the shadows from the DF200 are dissapearing. The pop up is the master light with a bit of fill from the DF200.
Live model will be good. Shadow around the nose would be the thing to look at.

A couple of questions.
What did you use for the pop up diffuser when you had it on ?
When you say paper to soften the DF200 what sort of paper do you mean ? Kitchen towel or paper - paper.

Don