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jamieZ740 08-08-06 09:45

FAO of BRUCE ACTION
 
After reading alot of your critigues and general slagging off i thought, this gut must know his stuff. or just be chatting sh*t. so i decided, i would have a look in your gallery, and to see what photo's of your own you have posted in the gallery or in and about the forum.. but you have yet to show us how great you actually are.


"""if this was my picture, I would crop the picture...

of the two photo,s the first one is flawed

this picture has two basic problems,one the...

the problem with this picture is...

what about your photo....

to close,next it is not sharp,3rd, the bacl ground is to busy,so in al you don,t have a picture....

ok what do we have here,this was a good try..."""

ALL the above are quoted from you, so come on, prove us your pictures will be so great and totally flawless... get some posted.....

john crossley 08-08-06 10:24

I'll second that.
Personally I think he's just a wind-up merchant.

Only "Bruce Action" can prove otherwise.

Al Tee 08-08-06 10:35

Maybe we should rename the 'critique file' or when posting pics ask if you want your pic to have a severe 'bruceing'..there you are..now there's 'chimping' & 'bruceing'..

Dictionary:

BRUCEING: to slate someone about something with little or no credibility whilst possibly under the influence of australian lager..

Dilema though..is it spelt 'bruceing' or 'brucing'..better not ask Bruce to assist here!

Al.

bruce action 08-08-06 12:19

ok guys at this time ,my favorite camera ,censor has crashed,but IM NOT WINDING YOU UP. in fact if we take time to get to know each other we could become good mate,some time back I managed to win the colour Photo comp of the year.that was in the time of film so it cost me a mint. I have many interests,photography being one of them, believe me I have no brum to bet.
just experince, and a likeing for the art people.

Wheeler 08-08-06 12:30

Bruce, is English your first language?

Dr.Manjeet Singh 08-08-06 13:02

This Thread reminds me of a time when a Doctor was feeling poorly and decided to visit a Doctor who had opened a practice just 10 miles away from his.

He registered and sat down and waited for the Doctor to come. He had heard this Doctor tell every one how good he was.

In walks the Doctor and after some time the nurse calls (now this Doctor didn't tell the nurse that he was a Doctor)- Mr. Manjeet Singh the Doctor will see you,

As he enters the Doctor's room the Doctor asks him to sit. Now Mr. Manjeet Singh how can i help you said the Doctor- I am feeling poorly and feel that i may have a low grade fever said Mr.Manjeet- at once the the Doctor got up and said
Mr. Manjeet you dont have to tell me any thing-i know every thing- you see the last 10 patients who came to me had this problem and they were cured in a few hours and then named all the 10 patients- as soon as the last name was mentioned Dr. Manjeet got up and decided to leave- as he reached the door the Doctor shouted i havent treated you yet....
Dr.Manjeet turned and said in a quiet voice- all the patients you mentioned that where cured in a few hours.....
[b]WERE D.O.A. on arrival at my practice....(DEAD ON ARRIVAL)
[b]........now you know why i feel this.....:)

yelvertoft 08-08-06 13:54

Taken from another thread:
Quote:

Originally Posted by bruce action
our club used Cirtiquing. some of this was done full in your face and honest,which had to include positive comemts along with this.................[snip].............. and its true at this point I have not posted any prints here,but it will happen, my major camera has just died and I,m not in a postion to replace itat these time.

Perhaps Bruce, if you had included some positive critique alongside your suggestions for possible improvement, you would not have alienated yourself from other WPF members quite so quickly. By all means express an opinion and suggest ways in which you think the picture could be improved (in your own opinion), that is what the critique forum is for. But could I suggest that people will be far more receptive to your suggestions if you also point out some of the things you do like about a particular image.

Stating only the negatives is just going to wind people up and there is no way they are then going to take on board what you have said.

If your current camera sensor has died, why not post some of your back catalogue? If you are an experienced, award winning photographer, you must have an extensive archive to draw upon. Why not dust off your competitionwinning film print, scan it in and show us so that we too can appreciate your efforts.

Regards,

Duncan

bruce action 08-08-06 14:14

Duncan its clear to me,that you haven,t read the critique that I have given
for all of them have positive comment with in them,there are some touchy souls here who it seems can,t take objective comment on their work,and even if they don,t agree ,they will or could grow through this. There is not one comment I HAVE MADE that didn,t have an spect of positivity,how ever if yoiu look at many of their comments,they are with out much depth,as to the strcture of a photo. heres for great growth.

Al Tee 08-08-06 15:14

Bruce...
POST A PIC, JUST ONE WILL DO......PLEASE !!!!!!!!!
Then we can all give it a damn good "bruceing" & then we'll all feel much better.
It will be the most critiqued, "(bruced)", pic ever! I'm with Duncan on this one; I cant wait to see this competition winner.
We will be gentle with you....maybe!
Al.

Canis Vulpes 08-08-06 15:52

Don't forget our competition!
 
Bruce, why not enter your competition winner into our monthly competition which this month has no theme - all photos allowed.

If its that good, it might win here also!

Snowyowl 08-08-06 16:21

Take it easy, guys and girls. I say that because I have come to the conclusion that Bruce is actually an obnoxious 12 year old, although not a particularly bright one, who has read one basic book, probably got it for Christmas, and is parrotting it back to us.

jamieZ740 08-08-06 20:30

so do we have any of Bruce's pics, he must have at least one on the PC

Chimpmeister 09-08-06 13:58

I think the proof of the pudding is in Bruce not posting anything of his own (surely something most of us would do before criticising others?) and despite promts to has not.

He has probably cropped all his photos so much that nothing is left?

Nuff said

Dom

jamieZ740 09-08-06 16:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimpmeister
He has probably cropped all his photos so much that nothing is left?

that can be the only explanation for the lack of photos to show :D :D

Canis Vulpes 09-08-06 17:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowyowl
Take it easy, guys and girls. I say that because I have come to the conclusion that Bruce is actually an obnoxious 12 year old, although not a particularly bright one, who has read one basic book, probably got it for Christmas, and is parrotting it back to us.

Well said Dan, I second that.

robski 09-08-06 21:46

I am inclined to 3rd this also.

The problem is that Bruce has jumped in with no introduction into the critique forum. After reading a few of his comments it did cross my mind that it was light blue touch paper time and retreat to a repectful distance to watch the sparks fly.

So Bruce now is the time to redeem yourself and tell us about your background and wealth of experience. :rolleyes: As others have pointed out some excellent examples of your work would be nice to see. Even a link to your website maybe or anybodies website ????

jamieZ740 10-08-06 01:15

you could imagine bruce action's real name as Bruce Perfect... oh wait is it?

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4626/untitledaf7.gif

no photos here neither and 3 critiques?!

:D

i am dying to see a photo brucey! :p

bruce action 10-08-06 07:19

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha, well listen to al of you,are you inscure or what.
Photos will follow when I,m good and ready, I might just past a Photo or to so you can just feel good about yourselfs, experince is developed over the years,and is valid wether I dicide to post some Photos or not.
your responses share a lot about you,yet I will look at in in a good light.as I,m not a negitive type, yes you wouls belive that....all will be revealed in good time.In the mean time I will be observing your work,,have a nice day.

robski 10-08-06 08:08

Brucey your a politician, You use a lot of words to say nothing. So tell us about yourself. Remove the cloak of mystery. Tell us about your work. Not just "developed over the years".

Chimpmeister 10-08-06 08:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruce action
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha, well listen to al of you,are you inscure or what.
Photos will follow when I,m good and ready, I might just past a Photo or to so you can just feel good about yourselfs, experince is developed over the years,and is valid wether I dicide to post some Photos or not.
your responses share a lot about you,yet I will look at in in a good light.as I,m not a negitive type, yes you wouls belive that....all will be revealed in good time.In the mean time I will be observing your work,,have a nice day.

Definately the 12 year old illiterate kid suggested. My suggestion to the mods would be bounce him off and then we can get back to the purpose of the site. Those in favour say 'I'

Al Tee 10-08-06 09:07

I'll go along with Dom....."I"....
Al.

Wheeler 10-08-06 09:14

People don't necessarily have to be able to take stunning pictures to make valid critiques, whether positive or negative. Demanding photos from Bruce in return for his comments is a little incongruous. If he's a good photographer are you going to agree with his critiques all of a sudden?

Bruce has been a bit of a clown and he doesn't communicate well. However, he's probably enjoying the attention you're all giving him. Whilst you're all baying for photos so that perhaps you can return his sentiment with a harsh critique you may just be giving him what he wants. It's probably better to ignore him.

Stephen 10-08-06 09:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheeler
Whilst you're all baying for photos so that perhaps you can return his sentiment with a harsh critique you may just be giving him what he wants. It's probably better to ignore him.

Absolutely nailed it Wheeler
From the outset I have been suprised by the attitude of people contributing to this thread, even the Mods :(

Chimpmeister 10-08-06 09:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheeler
Bruce has been a bit of a clown and he doesn't communicate well. However, he's probably enjoying the attention you're all giving him. Whilst you're all baying for photos so that perhaps you can return his sentiment with a harsh critique you may just be giving him what he wants. It's probably better to ignore him.

We've asked (not 'bayed') for photos and got nothing. I would have thought it would be common courtesy to post you own work for comment before slating others work. Despite requests we get nothing, and the 'critiques' have been pretty negative. If he is 'enjoying attention' and not following the ettiquette expected by most of us then I suggest his presence here is not of value and therefore my suggestion of bouncing him off before his attitude causes us to turn on each other.

There are some superb photographers here but I don't see them harshly criticising many of our humble efforts. To give all the positive points and then suggest a couple of constructive suggestions is what this board seems to thrive on. I am sure there are forums elsewhere for critical people with a downer on everything and appauling grammar to take themselves to meet like minded people where they can all slag each other off. I have been pleasantly surprised by the friendly feel on here and I suggest we should strive to keep it that way.

Wheeler 10-08-06 10:27

Chimpmeister, I agree with you. However, I don't think it necessarily follows that seeing any of Bruce's work will help a great deal to justify any of his comments. Negative critique has just as much value as positive critique, but it's the delivery that's really the issue here.

Perhaps people might feel more inclined to accept critiques from someone who's shown that they have a grasp of the subject? What we all share (I hope) is an enthusiasm for taking photos and improving our output. Most of the people who look at my photos don't take their own pictures but I'm happy to listen to their views.

Chimpmeister 10-08-06 10:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheeler
Chimpmeister, I agree with you. However, I don't think it necessarily follows that seeing any of Bruce's work will help a great deal to justify any of his comments. Negative critique has just as much value as positive critique, but it's the delivery that's really the issue here.

Perhaps people might feel more inclined to accept critiques from someone who's shown that they have a grasp of the subject? What we all share (I hope) is an enthusiasm for taking photos and improving our output. Most of the people who look at my photos don't take their own pictures but I'm happy to listen to their views.

Yes I agree 100%. My concern is the effect of his comments on the people here - but you are right, we ignore him. If none of us respond until he earns our respect then he will surely get bored. If he is an amazing photographer (albeit obviously not a modest one) and goes on to earn a bit of respect then there is no problem.

Andy 10-08-06 10:41

O.K. I'll end this one now (the thread will be locked afterwards and we do not expect other threads on this specific matter)

No one is going to be 'bounced off'. The member in question (and maybe others) have received a clear message from a large number of members about style of critique... I think it is fair to give certain parties an opportunity to change their approach to critique, especially as this is a particularly friendly community and may differ from harsher enviroments elsewhere on the web.

This has always been a friendly and laid-back site, and we will keep it that way... but everyone is entitled to another chance, notably new members who stumble across WPF and contribute without having first judged the friendly mood of the site.

It is not compulsory to show your work before offering critique BUT those who follow this route should expect some cynicism from others.

Thanks,
Andy

edit: unfortunately Bruce failed take his chance


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