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H4RDY 21-11-06 22:49

Tamron 90mm SP MF to Canon EOS 400D
 
Hi there,

is there anyway to mount the Tamron 90mm f2.8 Manual Focus lens
to an EOS 400D?

image of lens : http://i18.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/78/ae/12e4_3.JPG

any help appreciated

Thanks

Saphire 21-11-06 23:40

H4ardy I think you will need an adaptall2 I think to fit the canons, there are a few on ebay but they can be a high price.

H4RDY 22-11-06 10:05

Do adaptall 2 mounts exist for the canon-ef or ef-s mounts?

i have found ad2 for canon fd but i dont think that is compatible.

Saphire 22-11-06 11:08

H4rdy there are some around but not many I have just found this one on ebay but its from Hong Kong
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tamron-Lens-to...QQcmdZViewItem

miketoll 22-11-06 18:00

To the best of my knowledge there is no adaptall mount to connect to an EOS camera. Assuming you have the mount for FD then you can get an adapter made to fit this combination to an EF mount for about £45. See www.srbfilm.co.uk.

H4RDY 22-11-06 18:46

thanks for all the help people.

mav12 11-12-06 00:05

cheapest way to go is adaptall to m42 thread then a m42 adapter to eos fit
i use this with a tamron mirror lens
i dont know wether u can stop the lens down manually or not
as the camera will not operate the apature

tricky 28-12-06 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by miketoll (Post 13691)
To the best of my knowledge there is no adaptall mount to connect to an EOS camera. Assuming you have the mount for FD then you can get an adapter made to fit this combination to an EF mount for about £45. See www.srbfilm.co.uk.

Canon FD is one of the mounts that cannot be easily adapted for Canon EF. The breech of the lens is too wide and there is not enough leeway between the image plane to lens throat distance to accomodate an adapter and still maintain infinity focus.

The following mounts can successfuly be adapted to EF:

Nikon F, Nikon AI, Olympus OM, Rollie 35mm, Contax/Yashica, M42 screw, some Leica and a few others.

Mounts that can be adapted but will not allow infinity focus include: Canon FD, Pentax K and KA, Minokta MD. The difficulty with these is that the image plane to lens throat distance is too short to accomodate the adapter and/or the mount diameter is too great to mate close to the Canon mount.

I have used many Tamron lenses with a canon 300D via M42 and Nikon F mount adapters with the appropriate EF adapter in between lens and camera. These are much cheaper than the Tamron ADII EF adapter and I have found are better as the Tamron>EF mount does not depress the aperture stop down control on the lens which makes stop down metering a pain. Nikon ADII mounts can be had for under £10 and a Nikon to Canon EF moubt can be had for about £7 plus postage off ebay. I have also had great success using my collection of Olympus Zuiko prime lenses via an Oly>EF adapter I bought via ebay. This gave me access to my 50mm f1.4 and 40mm f2 pancake lenses.

The Tamron MF Macro is a nice lens. I have the older f2.5 version with the extension tube to give lifesize reproduction. It also makes a nice short telephoto for low light shots of musicians. I recently switched to a Nikon D2HS but can still use it via a Nikon AIS Adaptall mount.

I thoroughly recommed them for the money.

H4RDY 28-12-06 18:57

Thanks very much for that tricky.

And yes the Tamron 90 is a very nice lens. I was lucky enough to get the f2.8 version for a mere £90 on ebay.

miketoll 28-12-06 19:04

Tricky is right about the Canon adapter which is why SRB put a lens in so that infinity focus can be obtained, it has a multiplication factor of 1.6.

Joe 16-01-07 16:39

If anyone is thinking about a macro lens the Tamron f/2.5 Adaptall lens is a way better performer than the later f/2.8 version.
Tamron origianally developed an Adaptall 2 mount in the canon EF mount type to fit all eos cameras. However, the true Tamron original items are seriuosly rare items to come by....they were only stocked by Tamron to cater for their 350mm and 500mm mirror lenses.
Hwoever, there now appaers to be loads of after market pattern made mounts on ebay coming from overseas. Great items, and for only about £20 a bargain to boot.
Two minor critisisms people should be aware of tho...I bought one of the after market items not so long ago and it was a little 'sloppy' on the lenses and camera body...not a major worry, just a little off putting if you're use to quality.....particularly where you might be fitting a heavy lens to a larger SLR.
Second critisism...which also applies to Tamron's own mount when it was available.....your chosen Tamron lens will only have a completely manual aperture/iris operation. Takes a bit of getting use to focusing at open aperture f/2.5 then stopping down as desired.....could be a pain if you're doing shots requiring quick operation?!

Aside from using Tamron adaptall2 lenses....why not try Contax mount lenses...if you've got the cash a good carl zeiss lens will deliver some nice results....and contax lens to canon eos /EF body mount adapters are available for a few pounds....for a few extra pounds (about £40) you can even buy them with a facility to provide focus confirmation in your canon camera viewfinder!

tricky 16-01-07 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeJac (Post 15756)
If anyone is thinking about a macro lens the Tamron f/2.5 Adaptall lens is a way better performer than the later f/2.8 version.
Tamron origianally developed an Adaptall 2 mount in the canon EF mount type to fit all eos cameras. However, the true Tamron original items are seriuosly rare items to come by....they were only stocked by Tamron to cater for their 350mm and 500mm mirror lenses.
Hwoever, there now appaers to be loads of after market pattern made mounts on ebay coming from overseas. Great items, and for only about £20 a bargain to boot.
Two minor critisisms people should be aware of tho...I bought one of the after market items not so long ago and it was a little 'sloppy' on the lenses and camera body...not a major worry, just a little off putting if you're use to quality.....particularly where you might be fitting a heavy lens to a larger SLR.
Second critisism...which also applies to Tamron's own mount when it was available.....your chosen Tamron lens will only have a completely manual aperture/iris operation. Takes a bit of getting use to focusing at open aperture f/2.5 then stopping down as desired.....could be a pain if you're doing shots requiring quick operation?!

The original Tamron lens had no ability to stop down the lens so lenses with a stop down metering switch can't be used as neatly for stop down metering/focussing. This was due to its design for use with mirror lenses with no aperture adjustment. A better method is to use anothe Tamron mount and an adapter from that mount to Canon EF e.g. Nikon or Olympus which are widely available for not much cash. The bonus of an Olympus Tamron mount is the stop down lever on the rim of the mount as in Oly lenses.

Other Tamron lenses e.f. 105/2.5, 135/2.5 have a an on lens switch for stop down metering and open up for focussing.

Joe 16-01-07 19:45

don't limit yourself to the older adaptall lenses with the M-A aperture manual/auto iris switch....it's all hyperthetical once you put the EF/eos mount or adapter on anyway....the EF mount requires an electronic pulse to stop the iris down at photo taking time.

....tho I can see your point....quicker to move a lever than moving the aperture ring back to the desired aperture .....particularly at speed...

remember too that Pentax DSLR and Nikon DSLR still use the mechanical methods to operate the lenses apertures, so the same sort of problem wouldn't happen with Tamron's fitted with the correct mounts on their DSLR's, as we see on Canon's.......ah blast if only Canon had kept the old FD mount ba humbug...don't take me down that path! Have you seen how cheaply some quality FD fit optics go for....once saw a 300mm f2.8 go for less than £200.....imagine what it would've gone for had it been compatible with current canon kit!?

H4RDY 03-02-07 23:56

Hello again.

Can someone please explain, in what circumstances loss of infinity focus arises?

thanks

robski 04-02-07 00:25

This is normally due to the fact that the adaptor does not place the lens exactly at the same distance from the sensor as it would be on the native fit camera.

I was also told by a camera repair technician that Macro lens tend to be tuned to close up than for moon shots.

H4RDY 10-02-07 19:41

hi there, i have another query...

I have been using the said lens via a contax/yashica adaptall mount on my yashica FRII. however i have noticed that it does not focus at infinity!

Why can this be? is it a fault in the lens or the mount? how can i fix the problem?

I thought such problems only occured when the "distances" were out of calibration, which i read, only normally occurs when trying to adapt lenses to digital.

all help appreciated

Thanks

sassan 11-02-07 04:26

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Joe 11-02-07 10:16

H4RDY,
Are you using the 90mmf/2.5 version or the later f/2.8 version on your FR11?

I'm a big user of Tamron lenses on the Contax/Yashica mount, but the 90mm I have is the earlier 'metal' f/2.5 (came in later platic shrouded f/2.5 and later stillf/2.8 version...bonus of the later 2.8 was it could go down to 1:1 macro ratio without tamron extention ring)

just some thoughts/ideas....
You're using a mount that these lense were designed to be used with, so there's no arfermarket issues you should have here....assuming everyhting works as it should...
I would take an educated guess that either the C/Y adaptall mount is defective, something come amiss with the FR11 focus screen, or the lenses focus mechanism is out of alignment...the later f/2.8 versions where known to have a weak mechanism there....we've had one in the shop like it.....also the earlier versions are getting to be vintage now, so could the lenses be in need or TLC or has been taken apart sometime in it's long life?

robski 11-02-07 10:18

Just to clear up abit of confusion when americans talk about mm I think you will find they are referring to 0.001 of an inch imperial and not a metric mm.

H4RDY 11-02-07 18:27

Thanks everyone.

Joe my version is infact the latest f/2.8 version and i have an inkling that it may indeed have been taken apart.

Presumably if i go to an independant camera shop they will know what the fault is and what is to be done to fix it, correct?

Joe 11-02-07 19:53

Hi H4RDY,
Yes BUT, try an independant camera repairers, many are advertised on the web, and several others have been mentioned in other topic threads elsewhere on this site.
it was a long time ago, but I once used Thomas cameras services in birmingham to service one of my contax RTS bodies. It cost alot, and the camera still looks like it's been driven over, but judging from it's reliability it must be tiptop inside.
To be completely honest, if your kit isn't covered by a warranty don't bother with ANY camera shop...go directly to a repair agent.

It's a shame that this guy is based in the USA, but I've been in correspondence with him before...If there's anything this guy doesn't know about the older Tamron lenses it's not worth knowing......but his website is certainly very interesting none the less;

http://www.adaptall-2.com/index.html

Best of luck with the lens repair....even the later version is a superb optic when functioning correctly, and puts many a zoom optic to shame


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