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Vista fiesta...

Finally out.

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Wait 5-6 years for them to get the bugs out.

You must be very optimistic, do you think 5-6 years is enough?:)
Do you see no bug in your XP or for that mater Win2000, millennium, 98...

XP is stable enough. My work computer number crunches day after day after day without problems.

Every one needs to go with this motto especially with older hard ware.

From prior experience, I know we(PC lovers or users) all sooner than later will get into Vista, no mater what, but from what I am hearing the nice features of vista come at a price and heavily hardware dependability. For example though the min. recommended ram is 512MB, a comfortable level of working is achieved only at 4GB or higher.....

Currently we're recommending our users not to upgrade. A few things have changed internally which causes things a run a little oddly.

They had to end assistance for win 95, 98, millennium, 2000 and they still contained loads of bugs and security holes you could drive a bus through. At least they've said they will offer assistance for XP until 2011 or later.

I dont think I'll be installing Vista anytime soon on my computers, it's huge bloatware and is so full of bugs and other issues that it's bound to cause major problems for computer users who are less than proficient at sorting out Microsoft problem systems. One usefull thing it has going for it, it will provide the computer problem sorters and repair men in dosh for some considerable time - THANK'S Microsoft.

nirofo.

I am sure Vista will be great for people who have the hardware do it justice. I understand it can make efficient use of dual core processors and access more RAM but for me with technology from 2003 probably designed in 2000 I think as nirofo suggests it will be bloatware struggling to run properly on my system.

Besides I only use my PC for Internet, e-mails and processing/storing photos.

Dare I admit I am on the fence to try a MAC should my computer fail.

I certainly won't be one of the lemmings in the headlong rush. As already mentioned you should leave it until the first or second service pack.

What worries me about the trend of PC software and specs is the electrical power required. 500 - 1000 Watts for what is basically a text editor. Imagine a household with 2 - 3 PC running. Soon it will be more eco-friendly to chop down a tree and use pen and paper.

The main driving force is going to be machines with dual/quad/oct-cores and large amounts of memory. At least the customers of our software are starting to require more than 3GB of ram available in XP. The downside is that not all applications are going to be able to use the dual/quad-cores effectively. You may be able to transcode a video faster as you could split the file into 2:4:8 parts and certain game simulations will run faster.

A lot of the "doing two things at the same time" ads are so much hype, though it may mean that your mp3 player doesn't stutter whilst you're tweaking a 24 megapix photo.

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The first job with purchasing Vista is firstly to decide which version you require. At last count I believe there were 7 versions.

I know two people who both bought laptops which were labelled as "Vista ready" neither has been able to get Microsoft's new OS working successfully as many of the drivers required are still not available.
So, what does "Vista ready" mean?

One of the guys destroyed his installation disc in a ritually inferno.

At least wait for Service Pack 2!!

A couple of guys in our office are gamers. They were looking at some website that gave frame rates for games run under Vista. All of the games showed a decrease in frame rate. So even the gamers will be unhappy with this OS aimed at them.

If you were in a need for at least one reason whether or not switch to Vista, check here: Waring: Be ready for familiar bleb blebs in between)

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If you believe everything Micrsoft tells you then you'll believe anything. Many of the computer forums and systems repair trade are saying what a piece of bloated spyware full, complete with dangerous holes, so-called operating system crap it is. Many full spec 'NEW' computers are struggling to run it, last years computers can forget it unless they can find updated drivers for all their hardware, less than 1Gb RAM, struggling? As for software, nearly all the software companies are either having to write updates so that existing software will run correctly, or are having to issue completely new software to replace it. If that is progress then I think I'll live in the dark ages for 12 to 18 month's until the first Vista service pack comes out, we'll see then. Windows XP Pro and all my hardware and software works very well for me at the moment, I don't see any reason to change it yet! I've already tried Vista, had many problems and ditched it to go back to XP after 4 days of frustration. At the moment I'm recommending people I am repairing and building new systems for to stick with Win XP Pro.

nirofo.

And to think I was wanting a newer computer and of coarse Vista comes for the ride. I know Apple is really hitting hard at the new Vista. I guess I'll wait and see who wins.

Almost every IT professional I've worked with in the passed recommended waiting until Microsoft get to at least service pack 2 (SP2) on a platform before installing it. At least by then the majority of serious holes should have been resolved.

Only being a partly mac user (And even then, very frustrate user every time), I know I am a totally PC personality individual :). Well remembering form Windows 95, I know it is always irresistible not to go for the new OS, sooner if not later, no mater how much one tries to stay with the old. Anything new is always appealing and I never can find out why...

Few point I like to share:

- Vista is very memory hungry OS, so 1 GB ram is bare necessity, and in fact its 2 or more GB that you start to see the norm.

- Vista is a power monster. Don't try to put it on your laptop. You will be disappointed with the very shorten battery life (1/2 to 1/3 of regular life of time now you get with your XP). And if you thought of buying a new laptop with vista on it, think again. Battery industry is getting revolutionized as we talk and we soon will witness emerge of new batteries like never seen before. So to say, then vista may suffice for your through a trans-American flight. I would think the new batteries may not be compatible with current laptops, or even if so, then they will come at a significant price tag. So for now, if you are serious for converting to vista, think of putting it on your desktop.

- Expect a lot of soft and hard ware incompatibilities so if you have to keep what you have right now, you are much better off to have XP. This doesn't mean you have to stop getting Vista. You can partition you hard drive or better, if you have enough available IDE slots, you may add a new hard drive and put vista on it, so that way you can have the best of both worlds, going fast with new tech and then keeping the comfort of older peripherals or non compatible softwares.

- Vista is intense on graphics. You need a lot better video card than what is under the hood now. This is to bring out that special look of vista, for which it get a lot of admirers.

- Even in best hard ware conditions, expect the unexpected. Photo editing softwares such as photoshop, will be running slower no matter how good you hardware status is. So expect to see CS4 in near future.

- Vista due to securties incorporated has a tendency to create problem for your wireless connection specially if you are planning to use it in dorm or where you are dependent on an older ISP provider (Dont through out your XP disk yet, as I said have it on the second partition).

Well if you are sure you will never switch to Vista, then please be honest to me when questioning you in a year time.
MS had announce initially that Vista is the last OS they ever build as the next generation of machines will be independent of OS may be something similar to iphone or what ever it will be called after sue settles down. I am sure we will never be independent of uncle Bill or cousin's uncle Steve. MS soon changed their mind and current view is that the next MS OS will be out in 2 years. So if you think you will wait for all bugs to be terminated, think again or you may want to wait for a much longer time that you though.

Love to hear your point view of Vista if you are working with it or otherwise the rumors and news.

Your pointers seem to be in line with other opinions I've seen, and heard first hand from collegues who have switched. I'll stick with XP.

I was chatting with a friend the other day who asked if I'd switched to Vista, I said no for pretty much the reasons you have described above. We discussed some more and came to the conclusion we must be getting old because we no longer felt the need to be constantly upgrading our computer hardware or software. The wisdom of middle age.

Thought this was quite pertinent.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6407419.stm

If things go to plan I'll consider upgrading around 2012.

Of course, the other major problem with Vista is the huge carbon footprint which will be left after the majority of users discard their still functioning hardware.
This will need to be disposed of in one way or another. I've heard people say "the old kit can be used by third world countries". But, how many people will dispose of their old kit in this way and what happens to the kit that is being used by the third world. Microsoft seem not to care about these issues as its products always seem to require an upgrade of one form or another and a lot of kit being discarded.
The other aspect of new operating systems that appals me is that you do all you can to make your PC faster and more efficient and MS make their OS more bloated and demanding. The outcome of this is an expensive PC with really good specifications that now runs at about the same speed as the PC that it has superceded.
I think my philosophy on MS operaing systems are "if it ain't bust don't fix it".