Sony Develops full size 24.81 MP sensor
 

Press release http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Pr...10E/index.html

No doubt this will appear in the next top line Nikon too.

Don

Don - that is SOME sensor - if memory serves me right that is the range of a Hasselblad HD1 or HD2 spec. The HD3III - the new one goes up to 39 mega pix. in a Nikon that would be awesome but have we not seen a jump from 12 to 24 Mega Pix in less than twelve months from Sony? Where does it stop?

Andy,

H3D sensor is a lot larger at 48x36mm so far larger photosites. I thought I would post it as a point of discussion.
24 mp is too much for me, so I have little more than a passing interest.

D2X tiff is 70mb, so it makes you wonder what that would come out at from 24mp sensor. :eek:

Don

I dread to think the computer horse-power required to process RAW images from something like that. My computer has only just caught up with my camera and was lagging far behind for three years.

Dare I say it ?? Get an Apple Mac!!!

Years ago Canon reckoned when sensors reached 10mp that would be equal in IQ to film. Whether that is true or not I do not know but I cannot understand this mad mp race (apart from marketing) as the detail available will merely show up optical defects in the lenses. I do wonder if some people ever stop looking at photos at 100% or greater and actually look at the image as a picture. Some of the great pictures in the past would fail dreadfully at the pixel peeping level but are never the less great pictures. There that was a good moan, feel better now>:) :o :)

When it’s going to stop? It’s high time that camera manufacturers spend quality time to improve colour processing. It’s high time for printing industries to worry about higher bit colour processing for printing.

Think about those days when we had colour positive films on various formats. Jobs looked right. Printing looked right and all those huge billboards looked pin sharp. From that perspective what exactly is different today? Nothing, if I’m allowed to say that.

How many people in this world today take large prints on a regular basis? I’m not for a moment referring to photography lovers like us. They buy expensive cameras and shoot JPEGs. So that they can store them in computers/hard disks and share them on internet.
How large we want to see our photographs and where? A Nokia’s 2mp image produces good 5X7 prints for most to enjoy.

I’ve seen large prints (30X40) from various cameras ranging from 8mp to mine of 16.7mp. All printed on high (so called) dpi on archival inkjet printer. It was somehow difficult to differentiate the difference for me.

I’ve seen 120ft billboard enlargement from my 1Ds output. It looked better, sharp and more vibrant than what I had shot on 4/5 years ago. Yes, I agree that there are no generation losses today like film processing and scanning. We don’t have to wait holding our breath to see the results from colour labs.

World is heading for mega pixel game. But there is no change in day to day’s applications.

I’m sorry if I’ve said anything wrong here. It’s my view after all.
Should be around 140mb (plus/minus) in RGB TIFF.

Well, Stephen..
..You have suggestion here. ;)

And a huge screen to view the image at greater than 20% magnification.

Number of active pixels 6096(H) x 4056(V) approx.24.73M pixels.

Just wondering how much compression would be required to post any images on WPF. Fine detail from some of my D2X ( 12mp ) images has often disappeared.

Don

While working on actual pixels, my image is way bigger than screen (2560X1600) size..:(

Rudra,

Your input is valuable as you currently use 1Ds, so at a mid point mp wise between 10-12 that a lot of members have and Sony's new 24mp. Also you have had relatively huge prints made.

Relative going out of the window though with your billboard stuff. :D

You have also if I am correct used a Leaf or similar back on medium format kit.

Don

Erm, yeah. Exactly what I use nowadays :o

PHASE and I'm not too excited with medium format Don. Lens choice till date can't match our regular 35mm..:D

:D :D

For 5 years I only used A Bronica SQAi with 55mm, 110mm and 150mm lenses so I fully understand that.

Don

I knew photographers using 150mm Symmar lens on 4/5 camera (but for 6/7 format) and happy to cover most of their assignments.

Those are ZENZA lenses Don? They are great lenses if I remember correct...

Looks like my age is catching up..

Thats them Rudra. I called them ' CostaFortune ' thats why I only had 3. :D

Don

Don, can't you fix a back for your Bronica? C'mon you can do it with all your knowledge and skill!!! It would be really great.

And don't tell me that they're not with you any more..

Rudra,

I sold all the Bronica kit before its value collapsed :( to allow me to get into digital. In those days the D100 was a hefty £1600 body only. D1X my dream at the time was out of my league at £3500.
I reckon used I could buy a body & 80mm now for what I originally paid for a film magazine. :rolleyes:

For work I was still able to use the firms Sinar 5x4 so it was not missed there.

Don

when I got rid of my medium format, tho the smaller ETRS system, I had just about made it worth posting it....the S/H market dropped through the floor about 3 milliseconds after most people caught a wiff of decent digital cameras becoming available.
My very first experience of digital was the Nikon F3 with a gigantic digital 'back' on it. equivalent to about 1.3 mp, you could've used an egg timer to find out how quick each picture was processed (that slow), and we couldn't take more than a few pictures without downloading them to a computer.
Ho hum....

Sony rep' was in yesterday with some more pre-launch info'.....
What an amazing camera line up!!!
He also brought with him the A700, and a pre launch A350, teamed up with a couple of lenses including an 18-250mm and some rather smart f2.8 'contax' optics LOL...both massive improvements over the first Alpha, the A350 being the logical upgrade. Most of my queries, and apprehensions about the original Sony kit have been pretty much answered. A few short comings experienced including the buffers that could be larger and perhaps nice if one of the models was a little bit smaller (tho, having big hands I love the feel of the Sony's...dare I say, more than most Canons and some Nikon's). The designs in my view being some of the best. The cameras have good 'shoulders'

Sony do look like they are serious about challenging others in the DSLR market

The only major thing, which I pointed out to rep. "They would be simply the best if they had Canon EF mounts"........
That didn't go down too well!:o