More new toys
 

I see the latest from Nikon is announced - D700.

DPR link http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08...0previewed.asp

More for your kit bag Andy ? :D

Don

Looks a cracking piece of kit, a bit pricey though.

So, when are you buying this Don?? :D

Let me tell you, there no end to this....;)

Count me out Rudra. My current camera will be in use for years. :)

Local camera dealer tried to get me to buy a D3. Obviously needs the sales, but the only real plus point he could give me for what I do is that for example a 28mm lens is a 28mm lens and not 42mm. In A/F I start at 12mm (DX) and end at 180mm. Thoughts that my 180mm would only be 180mm put me off.

Full frame just toooooo expensive when you start adding new lenses.

Somewhere I did put up a thread some time ago asking for general experience comments Full Frame v 1.5/1.6 crop but there were no takers. I know you are full frame and the quality of your images is stunning, but I do not know if similar could not be achieved on smaller sensor cameras.

Still waiting for a serious comparison between a D2X and a D3 at ISO100 - 200 which is my normal.

For anyone reading this I do realise the implications of pixel size on low light abilities ( Foxys Hs never ceases to amaze in that respect :rolleyes: ) but I never go over ISO400 so do not feel I am loosing out.

Am I ???????

Don

That’s what I meant Don. That’s why I said there’s no end to it.
That’s a thought indeed. :)
That didn’t happen in my case. I came straight from 24 X 36 film to full frame digital. All my lenses are the same.
Of course it can be. There are plenty of examples here in this forum only.
I’m also waiting to see the difference between 12 bit and 14 bit colour processing from 1Ds Mark II and 1Ds Mark III.
Well, at times I had tried ISO1600 in low stage lighting for Anitha’s dance. Must say, I’m really happy with the results.

The shot below (you’ve seen this before) was taken with ISO1250.

http://www.worldphotographyforum.com...00&ppuser=3028

" more for your kit bag Andy ?"

No thanks Don - giving the D700 a miss - must say I like two things about it - the battery pack MB-D10 works with it and the D300 - and it has sensor cleaning built in. Now lets see what the D3X brings.

Rudra,
You do all these multi quotes that I never get right. Hard to teach an old dog new tricks. :D

Well your pic does show the advantage that large pixels give in low light. This is why I mentioned Foxy's Hs. That is a crop sensor but only 4mp, so large pixels.

12 bit and 14 bit processing, perhaps Andy or Derekb can give their take on it from a Nikon perspective. I remember Foxy and I looking at the differences between compressed and uncompressed NEFs. ( Nikon term for the RAW file ) Uncompressed from a D2X these weigh in at 21mb each but compressed only 10mb. If I remember the uncompressed retained a smidge more in the white end so of interest to wedding photogs but not for me. 12 bit v 14 bit may be similar but I have not taken time to read up on it. Not sure of who has a 1Ds Mark III to beg a similar comment from.

Andy,
D3X if 24mp or greater brings other issues to the table. A bit like the move up from 35mm to M/F in the old days. Provided you have quality glass then the file will have the ability to record even finer detail. Print to the size of a house.

The downside if you want to show off your pic online is that the compression required will do the image no favours. Take a pic of a detailed subject with your D2X and top glass ( sorry not the 18-200mm ) and process and post here. Do a crop of about 1/2 the scene and post at the same image size and you will see what I mean. I have D2X images that cannot be posted as they look rubbish with the levels of compression required. Perhaps processing guru's will add a comment to that. ( I don't mind if you say I'm talking rubbish - honestly. :) )

Don

I know what you mean Don - a lot of what I post here is only OK compared with the real thing - the compression is some thing I've never mastered. I will post something from an 80-200 f2.8 on the D2X and D3 and crop - should be interesting.

Money no object, then this is the latest toy to be released - around UK £20,000 :eek:
http://www.bjp-online.com/public/sho...ml?page=802195

Don

Interesting thought having been blown away by Rudras latest JBL speaker shot. Rudra used a 1Ds Mk2 which is full frame 16mp.
I find the fine pixel pitch of the D2X right for the type of studio and other subjects I do, but in this case if I did the JBL shot even with the same light setup, it would look different.

Rudras pic has a smoothness of tone that I am not sure I would quite match unless I used an Hs or D3.

My decision on the X was based on what I do, but I wonder how many looking at new kit place this aspect high up the list.

Don

Here is the latest Hassleblad release for any lottery winners. :D
50mp - where will it all end.

Oh nearly forgot, with 300mb Tiffs then probably add a new computer as well. :rolleyes:

http://www.bjp-online.com/public/sho...ml?page=803421

Don

willing to mop up any D300 s being thrown out in favour of these new toys now that I know how slow D80 is chasing Perigrine Falcons and Sand Martins :D

Don,

I am following this thread (honest!) just not had any free time lately. However that will change next week when myself and Caroline are having a week in the Lakes - all with days out for photography. :)

I have also got some new glass to test and I do intend putting both the D3 and D300 through some rigorous testing, this is really the first opportunity (besides my event work) I've had to do so.

So more soon... ;)

Oh and I have to say, I can't personally see Nikon's reasoning behind the D700. OK it fills a price point, but I don't think it's a 'must buy' deal.

I look forward to the results Derek.

£800 difference will make a lot of difference in the affordability stakes for those that want full frame. Also size and weight is a factor for quite a few. Similar arguement to the D2X v D200.

Quite a few members here went for the Canon 5D I assume on the same basis rather than 1Ds MkII ( hope I got that right ;) ). I bet Sassan will be full of it when Canon announce the 5D replacement.

Don

I think they can count me out for a D700 - have my hands full learning about the D3 & 300 - but I make no promises on the D3X :o :confused: :D

:D :D

Perhaps motorised golf carts need to be added to the News/Views and Reviews section.

Don

Hey Don - I thought you'd seen my earlier posting - I've already covered the transport problem and it also has a mount for the Sigma 200-500mm f2.8 !!!:D
LINK

Never gets stuck in traffic and I cannot see anyone trying to collect congestion charges or parking tickets -:D :D

I have no intention of getting one but thought I would check it out anyway. Two previews - not production cameras though.
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/mul...id=7-9311-9483
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D700/D700A.HTM

Looks pretty impressive, no image samples found yet, but I guess from Nikons viewpoint this will appeal to a wider market and so will sell in far greater numbers than the D3. If image quality of the D3 at high ISO made that a 'must buy' deal, then although you may miss a few things from the D3, even gain odd things not on the D3, that same high ISO appeal will still be there and so for non D3 owners it offers an awful lot, for an awful lot less £$.
So I can well see the reasoning.

Just had a chuckle at this thread started at the end of March 07. :D
http://www.worldphotographyforum.com...ead.php?t=2209

Will the D2X replacement be announced at Photokina in September, given that the X was announced there in 2004 ?

Book your tickets now Andy. The dates : Tuesday, September 23 to Sunday, September 28, 2008 ;) :)

Don

Not a bit large for a casual trip to the park then Andy. :p

Just trying to put this into the context of the current thread on Photography and Terrorism :eek: :D

Don

Andy, I'd be prepared to share transport with you.. :)

Sensor sizes and resolution just keep growing. :rolleyes:
Link is to the latest announcement on the medium format front.
6 x 4.5cm and 60mp.
http://www.bjp-online.com/public/sho...ml?page=804445

Don