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yelvertoft 11-08-08 17:21

Olympic Photo-Journalism
 
I thought this was rather a good P-J blog.

http://timesonline.typepad.com/olympictures/

Roy C 11-08-08 20:06

The basketball shots are awesome - guess they were with the 1D MkIII.

Joe 14-08-08 19:09

Thanks for the link Duncan.
The fencing shots are beautiful. I like it when something out of the ordinary is shown. It's a sport that looks like it lends itself well to photography.
Shame the basketball shots aren't real,the lighting looks really good in there...would've liked to have seen some 'real' ones (it is possible to get to near that jump height tho...some coaching schools arrange the use of spring boards so players gain confidence in the air, as part of the skills set....but not at this angle I'm afraid...His body shape is totally all wrong)
He's a canon man, and his kit list halfway down the article would suggest the Mk2 or 3

yelvertoft 14-08-08 19:16

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Originally Posted by Joe (Post 30202)
Thanks for the link Duncan.
The fencing shots are beautiful. I like it when something out of the ordinary is shown. It's a sport that looks like it lends itself well to photography.

A work colleague of mine used to fence, he once sent me a link to some video clips fencingfootage.com, or something like that. He said I ought to look at it because it was brilliant. It all happens so fast that unless you know the rules, it's all a bit pointless! It seems to be a sport that works better with stills than video.

There's also this related blog entry from the sports editor:
http://timesonline.typepad.com/olymp...g-picture.html

Joe 14-08-08 19:44

The olympics are a bit of a photographers dream, especially one interested in sports photography...but yes, I totally agree Re the rules.
It tends to show in the photos, whether the photographer knows the rules of the sport being photographed. Quite often it amazes me how a professional will know, or atleast expect, a particular sports person to perform, know their strengths and react to particular key moments.....I guess it only comes from following the sport and knowing something about the people behind it?
Did you get the chance to try and photograph your colleague?....Fencing photography strikes me as a bit of a challenge in timing!

yelvertoft 14-08-08 21:11

No, sorry, he doesn't fence any more, but I dare say if I suggested he goes back to his old club for a chat 'for old time's sake' I could tag along. You've put the seed of an idea in my head.....

Joe 15-08-08 22:38

...I'm glad I persued that one :)
I'm now expecting some fencing shots on here soon now then. LOL
Seriuosly tho..I think it has potential

sassan 18-08-08 05:50

Nice link.

This is by far the most beautiful, sophisticated, elaborated, decorated Olympic I have ever seen.

Not to make any one anxious but I think its really hard to top this Chines version. Happy we are not hosting the next Olyi.

sassan 18-08-08 05:56

Another link that you may find interesting of course if not minding the emphasis on Team USA.
LINK

Joe 18-08-08 20:27

Quote:

This is by far the most beautiful, sophisticated, elaborated, decorated Olympic I have ever seen.

Not to make any one anxious but I think its really hard to top this Chines version. Happy we are not hosting the next Olyi.

The politics aside, it is certainly an elaborate affair.
I doubt very much though that London 2012 will need to call in rent-a-crowd. I'll be wearing my yellow shirt and waving my flag for free!

sassan 19-08-08 06:30

LOL Joe.

Love the concept of "rent-a-crowd".
But I thought the agency is called "Lash-or-prison-A-crowd":D

I am really impressed by the moving cameras at the side of fields that seems are all in double. I guess some Chines movie version of Olympics will be out soon is 3D.

Equally impressive for me is the under water mobile cameras that move with the swimmers. I can't believe technology has become so advance to actually show a finger nail difference or one hundredth of a second on picture to find the right winner with no doubt whatsoever , using this technology (Talking of that fabulus remarkable marvelous win of Michael Dolphin Phelps...).

Wonder how a commercial or independent sport photographer can have access and control over those or any other dependent under the water pool cameras... May be a good idea for 2012 to install many and rent some of those cameras ahead of time to companies that can afford the 7 digit figures for independent picture taking, so a lot of cameras that ultimately bring in a lot of revenue for the host country. I hope some of you guys have input or influence on these type of issues for London's Olympic. If approved, I'll apply for my commission later on :)

Lastly but most importantly I am sure Duncan will not forgive me not to say something about the beauty of those beige L class lenses with sexiest lip stick on the end top, (Engineer must have been French-Japaneses) that of no doubt are the most beautiful lenses in the world, dominant on the picture of the Link Duncan left, 2 preserving the beauty of Olympics in true and accurate color, Of course talking of the best camera in the world, Canon... ;)

Joe 19-08-08 11:24

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the beauty of those beige L class lenses with sexiest lip stick on the end top,
They do look nice, but as I've found with the early 300mm Sigma, which is the same colour.....it's a totally impracticle colour for hiding marks and prangs to the barrel! :(....they also make you stand out in a crowd (tho some may like this?)

sassan 20-08-08 02:22

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Originally Posted by Joe (Post 30257)
They do look nice, but as I've found with the early 300mm Sigma, which is the same colour.....it's a totally impracticle colour for hiding marks and prangs to the barrel! :(....they also make you stand out in a crowd (tho some may like this?)


Joe sorry but this time you are not right. In fact the color is so practical that you see newer lenses including some of the expensive long Nikon and Sony/Minolta/Zeiss are done this way.

This is because especially on the long heavy lenses when pros use them in major fields such as this Olympics ground etc, usually under sun and natural conditions, the color Black by virtue of absorbing sun's energy turns warm, causing expansions of part. On critical levels this does decrease the quality by changes in focal length. Then miss function and many other problems are in association to traditional black color too. White just reflects the light and its energy so remains cooler and more resistant to these thermal changes. All simple physics. If you don't believe me ask Dav. I will not be surprise to see once the dust of zealousness settles, many other companies also follow Canon's color, especially for long heavy focal length lenses.

As for outer lens' Red ring or lip stick part I am not so sure. May be you are right there.

Joe 20-08-08 10:38

Sassan, are we sure that Canon did it first?
Didn't Tamron, Sigma, and some of the older more exotic older Zeiss glass come with a cream /white barrel?

I'm more likely to prang and leave marks on my Sigma than it is to over heat...I'm using a black camera body afterall....though what you say makes perfect sense...hadn't thought of that one

yelvertoft 20-08-08 12:17

To get back vaguely on-topic, it really is worth keeping up with the entries in the blog. I'm particularly impressed with the Pic of The Day for the 15th August
http://timesonline.typepad.com/olymp.../08/index.html

sassan 20-08-08 20:10

My favorite of all still remains to be fencing with low shutter speed from Aug 14:
LINK

BTW who is Simon that says:
Simon loves Yelena :)

Adey Baker 20-08-08 21:56

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Originally Posted by Joe (Post 30268)
Sassan, are we sure that Canon did it first?
Didn't Tamron, Sigma, and some of the older more exotic older Zeiss glass come with a cream /white barrel?

I'm more likely to prang and leave marks on my Sigma than it is to over heat...I'm using a black camera body afterall....though what you say makes perfect sense...hadn't thought of that one


I reckon that Canon were before Sigma - didn't they make the old manual-focus FD super telephotos in white (600mm F4.5, 800mm F5.6, etc.)? The earliest Sigmas I can think of were a couple of zooms - 55-200mm and 150-500mm Apos if I remember correctly. Tamron's first 300mm F2.8 (non-internal focus) was quite a pale colour, I think, but I'm not sure when it first appeared.

I've got a 400mm F5.6 Sigma from the same era as your 300mm, Joe. The off-white colour certainly deflects heat from the lens - have you noticed how cold to the touch they are in the winter?

yelvertoft 21-08-08 07:48

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Originally Posted by sassan (Post 30277)
BTW who is Simon that says:
Simon loves Yelena :)

Simon is Simon Barnes, the Times chief sports writer, the guy who writes the words to accompany Marc Aspland's (the PJ who's blog we are discussing)pictures in the paper.

Simon's piece on Yelena can be read here.
http://timesonline.typepad.com/olymp...seeing-th.html

His piece on a woman who is remarkable for reasons other than photogenics can be read here:
http://timesonline.typepad.com/olymp...ow-on-ear.html

Joe 24-08-08 11:17

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My favorite of all still remains to be fencing with low shutter speed from Aug 14:
Has got to be one of my favourites too Sassan.
Some of the Greco-Roman wresling pictures are great too.....gauranteed top facial expressions.

Quote:

I've got a 400mm F5.6 Sigma from the same era as your 300mm, Joe. The off-white colour certainly deflects heat from the lens - have you noticed how cold to the touch they are in the winter?
Mine is away for cleaning and servicing at the mo. the optics seem to suffer big time with condensation.


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