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inacar 28-05-07 20:51

To IS or not IS?
 
I have heard such glowing remarks from users about the Canon IS feature. I have tried two lens now and can't see any real difference with it on or off. So please tell me what gives?:)

Leif 28-05-07 20:54

It certainly does work. A colleague at work bought a Nikon 18-200 VR AFS lens. I had a play with it, and I certainly could see the image through the viewfinder freeze when I depressed the shutter button. Our ancestors would surely have called it witchcraft.

robski 28-05-07 22:18

I have IS on my 300mm prime and I can get very passable shots @ 1/100 sec handheld. So I would say it is of benefit for handheld. But if light is never a problem in your part of the world then no great advantage.

robski 29-05-07 00:42

Maybe worth giving this link a scan

http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/tutorials/is2.html

postcardcv 29-05-07 10:02

I've long been of the opinion that IS is overrated and that a good tripod will do the job just as well. Then I picked up a 100-400 IS and was amazed by just how good IS really is. In the past I used a non-IS 400mm lens and could handhold it down to ~1/250th and get good results anything slower required support. However with the 100-400 IS I have managed pin sharp shots handheld down to 1/80th. I still feel that a tripod will offer you a real advantage but I know agree that IS is very useful and the 100-400 IS is a great walkabout lens for wildlife shots. The worst thing about my recent IS discovery is that I now want a 500 IS!

Gidders 29-05-07 11:23

Whether you can see the difference through the view finder depend on the length of the lens. With my 70-300 IS, at 300mm, when you half depress the shutter, it is immediately apparent that the IS has activated. With my 17-85 IS or 24-105 IS nothing appears to happen in the viewfinder but from this shot and this shot in my gallery, both at 1/13 sec hand held it clearly is working :D

Birdsnapper 29-05-07 12:04

Agree with Gidders, IS can be seen to work on 70-300. However, IS is generally only worthwhile when using slow shutter speeds (e.g. perched birds) but not when wanting to freeze action (e.g. birds in flight).
I'm only too pleased to be able to add to your confusion!!!!

inacar 29-05-07 14:57

Thank you, for all your information. I shall experiment some more, but it seems if you are over the 300 range you can enjoy the benefit of IS without question.

yelvertoft 29-05-07 18:37

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Originally Posted by inacar (Post 20584)
Thank you, for all your information. I shall experiment some more, but it seems if you are over the 300 range you can enjoy the benefit of IS without question.

Ina,

Whilst I have no direct experience of Canon's IS lenses, I have a similar system to this in my Pentax body. You can get benefits from IS at much shorter focal lengths than 300mm. With a shorter lens, you may not see the benefit unless you are a LOT slower on the shutter speed. On a sunny day in Texas, your shutter speed may be so high that you aren't seeing the difference of IS on or off. Try taking pictures in darker conditions, get the shutter speed down, even with short lenses. If your shutter is slow enough, you'll see the difference.

The normal rule of thumb for hand-held shots on a full frame film camera is that the shutter speed should not be slower than 1/focal length. With a cropped size digital sensor the crop factor should also be taken into consideration.

So, if you are using a 50mm lens, you would traditionally not have gone slower than 1/50th of a second on a film camera without IS to get an acceptable result. If you are using a dSLR with a 1.5x crop factor sensor, this would mean it takes a steady hand to get a sharp shot at slower than 1/75th (i.e. 50 x 1.5) of a second. If your experiments with and without IS have been using shutter speed/lens combinations following this kind of rule, then you may well not see a huge difference.

There is much debate about how much improvement you can get with IS, but I think it's safe to say you should start seeing marked improvements between IS on and off at 2 stops slower than the rule of thumb.

So, with a 50mm lens, you would normally get an acceptable result hand-held at 1/75th of a second on a 1.5x dSLR without IS. If you use the same camera/lens combination in darker conditions such that the shutter speed is down to 1/16th of a second, then you should see the benefits of IS on or off.

I've taken a (stabilised) hand-held shot at 30mm focal length, on a 1.5x crop sensor, at 0.5 seconds (no, I won't post it, Chris will understand :o ), and had a sharp picture. There was an element of luck in this and it wasn't very repeatable, I just state this to show what can be achieved at shorter focal lengths.

Perhaps you just have too much light to see the benefits of IS. The answer is to move to gloomy northern Europe. ;)

Duncan

Oh, and P.S. If anyone wants to start arguing that the crop factor doesn't make any difference to the amount of shake on the image, start a new thread.

Leif 29-05-07 22:17

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Originally Posted by yelvertoft (Post 20590)
The answer is to move to gloomy northern Europe. ;)

Gloomy and wet. We seem to be going through a Monsoon season.


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