Hi Don,
I thought you might need a project to work on
The room was almost dark (I didn't want any stray lights) The ring was about 12" away, and as you can see the flowers a actually touching the wall so very happy with lack of shadows. I tried the ring with Tina this morning and she says it is way to bright for her and it made her squint
I did get a few with the the ring light catch in her eyes (she won't let me post her photo) Might have to try and defuse somehow.
Lello