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			My default in CS is srgb the same as in camera, I only ever check the profile when I have downloaded someone else's photo's. I have found that if I don't check any editing I do seems to get stripped off when its converted to srgb for the web, so I check first then edit. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			I don't know what CS does to the file but in the directory where I downloaded it it was 200k when I came to CS save it was showing over 400k so had to reduce, That I can't fathom. 
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	Christine Iwancz Gallery upload limit is 4 photos per 24hrs Gallery Posting Guidelines here http://ciphotography.freehostia.com/index.php Equipment= Canon 7D, 40D, 400 f5.6, 75-300, 100mm Macro, 18-55, Canon 70-200 f4, Tokina 12-24mm, Kenko pro 300 1.4,1.5 and 2.0x, Jessops ext tube set, Canon 580 flash. Home made ring flash. . Close-lens.  | 
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 What I did notice is that the red on the left is much more vibrant in Stephens variation, something I cannot match exactly. I do think though that we are all in agreement that the original looks a little flat. Will upload my variation shortly. Harry I think there's a lot of people on here with not a lot of work to do  
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			Wolfie he may have gone over it with the burn tool as I did.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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 I notice that there are only very slight differences in all the varations, which suggests Don got it all spot on. On my attempt I increased the gamma slightly, but then added the "High Pass" filter @ 12 pixels, then used the "Soft light" blend and adjusted the opacity to 70%. On saving, to produce a similar file size as Don, I had to save at quality 3. Harry  | 
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			Has anyone got a bad image that we can work on and post the results with how we did it. I havn't got one trashed them all.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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	Christine Iwancz Gallery upload limit is 4 photos per 24hrs Gallery Posting Guidelines here http://ciphotography.freehostia.com/index.php Equipment= Canon 7D, 40D, 400 f5.6, 75-300, 100mm Macro, 18-55, Canon 70-200 f4, Tokina 12-24mm, Kenko pro 300 1.4,1.5 and 2.0x, Jessops ext tube set, Canon 580 flash. Home made ring flash. . Close-lens.  | 
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	  but there may be about 40GBs worth on my dedicated photo hard driveHarry  | 
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			This is now getting confusing.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			In that case in must be down to monitor calibration. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	I use Quick Gamma http://www.normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html and Monitor Calibration Wizard http://www.hex2bit.com/products/product_mcw.asp  | 
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 Frankly its my opinion that the tweaks mentioned above are hardly necessary on Dons picture, apart from maybe a slight increase in contrast using Curves. To change the Gamma etc is not needed unless you want to create a more specific effect.  | 
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