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			I am still amazed at what this program is capable of and it has encouraged me to start shooting in the higer ISO ranges w/o losing a lot of quality to the shot.  Thanks for the recommendations guys.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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	I was interested in your comments so downloaded myself a copy of "neat image" and was quickly impressed with it, mainly with images that had originally been quite dark and showed a lot of noise when lightened.It should be interesting to see how it performs with higher ISO ratings which should be very useful as I do a lot of handheld photography. My question is, when in the photo image processing is it best to use it-first of all, right at the end or somewhere in between, as I presume it can make quite a difference. Thans, Charly.  | 
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			Hi Charly, just noticed this was your first post.  Welcome to WPF.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Hi Charly and a warm welcome to you. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	There seems to be two schools of thought on whether it should be done first or after some adjustments. I have been told to do it before any corrections were made to the original image and must admit I have tried it both ways and I do see better results with doing first.  | 
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			While I don't use Neat Image, I use Noiseware Professional, I do almost always apply noise reduction before I do any other work on the image.  I may sometimes just use a slight amount of brightness control if necessary to lighten the image before I apply noise reduction.  The last thing I do is run unsharp mask to add the required amount of sharpening to the finished image before saving it to file with a unique title. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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	Thanks for the warm welcome and for the advice, much appreciated, can't wait to put it to good use. I was wondering, of those that use a noise reduction programme to counteract the negative effects of shooting with a higher ISO rating, how high can you push it before the noise becomes too much and you lose that natural feel to the shot. Charly.  | 
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			Depends on what camera you have Charly. On my Canon 300D 400 ISO was really the safe limit. Now on my 20D I don't like pushing it above 800 ISO. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Yes I noise clean before. I used to after but the results are better before. 
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			Hi Charly, this was taken at 1600 ISO.  Now can you see why I was so delighted  
		
		
		
			 
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