In camera processing RAW v JPG comparison

[Saphire]

Stephen I opened both files directly with cs2 and just did a crop and save as. I didn't do any editing. When I viewed both files in Capture one and rawshooter where I can see both side by side without any conversion the raw file to me looks better.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Saphire

Stephen I opened both files directly with cs2 and just did a crop and save as. I didn't do any editing. When I viewed both files in Capture one and rawshooter where I can see both side by side without any conversion the raw file to me looks better.

Now I'm really confused
Which program converted the RAW file?
Did you use C1 and RSE to view both files, no that can't be right, RSE doesn't show JPEG files, so was it the raw file you compared in both C1 and RSE.
Perhaps you converted in ACR, were the default settings boxes unchecked?
Oh heck too many progs, so many variables

[Saphire]

Stephen. My mistake it wasn't rawshooter it was FSviewer it allows you to view both raw and jpgs side by side. I only posted the photo's to show the output from my canon no other reason.

[Don Hoey]

Nice choice of subject Christine, lots of fine detail.

I have very limited skill in the digi darkroom and have both your images up side by side in Paint Shop Pro 7. I added 15 to brightnes and the same to contrast on the JPEG. I now cannot tell them apart. Viewing both at 200% I cannot see any difference in recorded detail.

Are you able to view the RAW and converted side by side to see if the conversion affected the brightness levels.

Don

[Don Hoey]

Originally Posted by ruchai

Well said, Stephen. I think to compare using RAW versus JPEG is like comparing cooking your own food versus buying food in cans. If you do not have time to spare then eat from cans, if you think eating is important to you then cook your own food.

I could not disagree more with this statement.

For me the art is getting as much right in camera. There will obviously be occasional times when it is easier to fine tune WB and exposure on the pc, then I will shoot RAW.

Perhaps this is why I have still lots to learn about the digital darkroom.

Don

[prostie1200]

Hi Saphire
In your PS Canon Plugin which opens the Raw file, there are a number of Default settings in it which will display the Raw file on screen. These boxes showing the default settings (which are very simular to the cameras in house program, which gives you the Jpeg Pic) can be unticked to show the actual pic of the Raw file.
Take a note of the opening setting numbers, untick the boxes - then open the file as a Jpeg - you will then see a marked difference.

[Don Hoey]

Originally Posted by Ledaig

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/...2-picture3.gif

Obviously no in camera processing here. LOL

Don

[prostie1200]

Hi Don
The only settings which affect the Raw file in the camera are - The WB, ISO, Shutter speed, Appature and of course Focus - All the instructions regarding density of color, sharpening etc., etc., are ignored when producing the Raw file.

[Saphire]

Prostie
All boxes were un-ticked. second photo was in Capture 1 top image is the raw bottome is the jpg.

[Canis Vulpes]

Originally Posted by Don Hoey

I could not disagree more with this statement.

For me the art is getting as much right in camera. There will obviously be occasional times when it is easier to fine tune WB and exposure on the pc, then I will shoot RAW.

Perhaps this is why I have still lots to learn about the digital darkroom.

Don

Absolutely - Get it right at the camera stage makes it a whole lot easier.
This thread is about discussing output from camera JPEG V's RAW with no adjustment, assuming its spot-on from the camera.