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Old 24-03-06, 14:41
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My default in CS is srgb the same as in camera, I only ever check the profile when I have downloaded someone else's photo's. I have found that if I don't check any editing I do seems to get stripped off when its converted to srgb for the web, so I check first then edit.

I don't know what CS does to the file but in the directory where I downloaded it it was 200k when I came to CS save it was showing over 400k so had to reduce, That I can't fathom.
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Old 24-03-06, 14:56
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Stephen that's odd when I first downloaded it, it showed in the profile as no colour management for this document and when I clicked on srgb the photo never changed it still looked flat.
Same here Christine, I've just spent 1/2 hour in PS CS2 trying to work out Stephens statement. As you say selecting srgb made no difference for me either.

What I did notice is that the red on the left is much more vibrant in Stephens variation, something I cannot match exactly.

I do think though that we are all in agreement that the original looks a little flat.

Will upload my variation shortly.

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Old 24-03-06, 14:58
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Wolfie he may have gone over it with the burn tool as I did.
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Wolfie he may have gone over it with the burn tool as I did.
Thanks for that Christine.

I notice that there are only very slight differences in all the varations, which suggests Don got it all spot on.

On my attempt I increased the gamma slightly, but then added the "High Pass" filter @ 12 pixels, then used the "Soft light" blend and adjusted the opacity to 70%.

On saving, to produce a similar file size as Don, I had to save at quality 3.

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Old 24-03-06, 15:18
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Has anyone got a bad image that we can work on and post the results with how we did it. I havn't got one trashed them all.
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Never take any but there may be about 40GBs worth on my dedicated photo hard drive

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Wolfie he may have gone over it with the burn tool as I did.
As I said in my original comment, I did absolutely nothing to Dons original except alter the colour space from AdobeRGB to sRGB before Saving for Web.
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This is now getting confusing.
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In that case in must be down to monitor calibration.

I use Quick Gamma http://www.normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html

and Monitor Calibration Wizard

http://www.hex2bit.com/products/product_mcw.asp
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In that case in must be down to monitor calibration.

I use Quick Gamma http://www.normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html

and Monitor Calibration Wizard

http://www.hex2bit.com/products/product_mcw.asp
I use a Colorvision Spyder2Pro on my monitor so am confident I am seeing things correctly.

Frankly its my opinion that the tweaks mentioned above are hardly necessary on Dons picture, apart from maybe a slight increase in contrast using Curves. To change the Gamma etc is not needed unless you want to create a more specific effect.
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